“Below is a screen-shot of the BTS database, Bureau of Traffic Statistics. Oddly it shows that Flight 11, with no wheels off time, or departure time, showing that it never took off on 9/11. This exact same oddity is duplicated regarding the Flight 77, the other American Airlines flight on 9/11 which allegedly took off from Dulles. The BTS database shows that the 2 American airlines planes, flights 11 & 77, as having no wheels off time or departure times. This is actually a key to understanding 9/11 as well as the mystery of the planes & passengers.
One mystery compounds into another creating a chain or sequence of events that become confusion. The largest blunder that 911 investigators have made is to be aware of this BTS discrepancy and then act as though it wasn’t there. Nearly everyone who becomes aware of this BTS discrepancy, then go on to assume that these passengers somehow still ended up on flight 11. The passengers did disappear after all, did they not? And we were all told that they boarded and were on flight 11, right? We have Air Traffic controllers as eye witnesses saying that flight 11 was seen on radar, and followed all the way to the North Tower of the World Trade Center complex. We also then have the cell phone calls from the passengers themselves, to bolster this story, do we not? Thus the path of least resistance to the investigator of 911 is to assume that the BTS discrepancies regarding flight 11 & 77 is just a snafu or a glitch. Or perhaps, facing all of the obstacles above, the 911 investigator thinks it less difficult to shift focus into other areas of investigation, of which, thanks to the planners of 911, there is an abundance. Please see the rest of story below the chart below…”
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letsrollforums.comWhat Happened to the Passengers? – The “4” Flights of 9/11
The “4” Flights of 9/11 – What about the Passengers? What happened to them?
by Phil JayhanMost people are not aware that there are issues with the 4 groups of people who flew on the 4 flights of 9/11 from 3 locations. There are so many issues it would take a newsroom full of dedicated reporters a long time to sift through it all. There are problems with the boarding of passengers on 3 flights. And on the 4th flight we find 2 boardings, an unusual event to say the least. Two of the aircraft, we are to believe didn’t even take off on 9/11, as this is what registers in the BTS database for flights 11 & 77 on 911. Two of the aircraft that allegedly struck the towers, can be plausibly shown to be drones, calling into question both passenger and crew from those respective flights. (11 & 175) While flight 77 obviously didn’t crash at the Pentagon from all evidence shown, and flight 77 is one of the 2 flight which BTS shows no departure time for. While flight 93 wasn’t even a regular flight on 9/11, it was created in the last 2 hours before it flew. And as you will see are good reasons to believe Flight 93 was boarded twice at Newark. If this sounds confusing, it is because it was meant to be so. But I believe this article shows it is possible to make some simple sense out of the days events and tie them all together.What was alleged to have been Flight 11, crashing into the North Tower on 9/11/2001 at 8:46 AM. Notice the bright flash at the towers face just prior to impact.
This was taken by the Naudet brothers, filming a documentary of 911. Below is a screen-shot of the BTS database, Bureau of Traffic Statistics. Oddly it shows that Flight 11, with no wheels off time, or departure time, showing that it never took off on 9/11. This exact same oddity is duplicated regarding the Flight 77, the other American Airlines flight on 9/11 which allegedly took off from Dulles. The BTS database shows that the 2 American airlines planes, flights 11 & 77, as having no wheels off time or departure times. This is actually a key to understanding 9/11 as well as the mystery of the planes & passengers.
One mystery compounds into another creating a chain or sequence of events that become confusion. The largest blunder that 911 investigators have made is to be aware of this BTS discrepancy and then act as though it wasn’t there. Nearly everyone who becomes aware of this BTS discrepancy, then go on to assume that these passengers somehow still ended up on flight 11. The passengers did disappear after all, did they not? And we were all told that they boarded and were on flight 11, right? We have Air Traffic controllers as eye witnesses saying that flight 11 was seen on radar, and followed all the way to the North Tower of the World Trade Center complex. We also then have the cell phone calls from the passengers themselves, to bolster this story, do we not? Thus the path of least resistance to the investigator of 911 is to assume that the BTS discrepancies regarding flight 11 & 77 is just a snafu or a glitch. Or perhaps, facing all of the obstacles above, the 911 investigator thinks itless difficult to shift focus into other areas of investigation, of which, thanks to the planners of 911, there is an abundance. Please see the rest of story below the chart below;BTS – Bureau of Traffic Statistics showing Flight 11 never departed from Boston Logan international Airport on 9/11/2001.The problem with nearly all 911 research regarding this issue of the BTS discrepancies of flights 11 & 77 is it all ends here, and no more questions are asked. If you ask the right question, you usually get the right answer. If you ask the wrong question, you usually get the wrong answer. If you ask no more questions at all, you will get no more answers. And thus, it is left there, with no more questions. So lets start asking some of the questions which have never been asked or pursued.
Question # 1. Do we have any evidence that shows the passengers at the airport, boarding terminals or boarding the planes?
Answer: No – Not on any of the “4 flights” of 911 [Is this not a huge red flag already? If such footage existed, and by all means if the governments story is true, there is indeed footage of all the passengers at the airports and boarding terminals. Yet not an inch of footage of this video has ever once been produced.] **The answer why there is no video of any of the passengers at any of the terminals or airports is because it simply does not exist and never did exist.
Question # 2. How does a passenger purchase a ticket for a Flight which will not fly on 9/11?
This is conceivably possible. Flights are canceled all the time and combined with other flights according to the dictates of the airlines and passenger loads any given day. Yet there are no records of any such occurrences on 9/11. The official story is set in stone. The people boarded Flight 11. They boarded AT Flight 11’s gate.
Question #3. How does a passenger fly on a flight which never takes off on 911?
Now this is impossible. This is where the tougher questions are needed. The passengers all disappeared and that, seamlessly, on 911. This is beyond dispute. And yet they never could have boarded a flight that did not take off. They might have conceivably purchased tickets for these flights, but they could have never actually gotten onto flight 11, boarded and then taken off. Why? Because the BTS database is accurate and also definite. Flight 11 did not depart on 911. Unfortunately this presents a conundrum and a wall of confusion that none stepped over till now.
Question # 4. Where did the passengers go, if not onto flight 11?
Were they herded into rooms at the airports as some theorists have assumed? Were they tricked onto boarding another flight, which they thought was flight 11, a sort of ‘patsy plane’ if you will? These are all legitimate questions because we do after all have the collective disappearance of of 92 souls. They had to have gone somewhere, because they couldn’t have gone nowhere. They didn’t board or fly on flight 11. We have no reports of any disturbances at any of the airports, much less Boston Logan, which would likely happen if airport officials tried to sequester 92 people trying to board a flight inside an International airport with hundreds of witnesses all around, and yet they collectively disappeared. Not onto flight 11. And not sequestered at the airports. Then where?
At this point we are running out of ground to walk on unless we pass over the most difficult bridge of all and ask the most unpleasant of all questions;
Question # 5. Were any of the passengers on flight 11 or any of the 4 planes part of the conspiracy of 9/11?
As an investigator, all things need to be considered. Regardless of peoples emotions, and all lines need to be investigated. The fact that there were no disruptions at any of the airports, indicates that the passengers disappeared seamlessly. Without struggle. Without commotion. Without notice. And without video surveillance. The fact the government has not produced a single video showing any of the passengers is likely because if they did so, it would prove upon analysis that the passengers were in a part of the airport they never should have been on 9/11. This is why the government cannot produce the video of any of the passengers on 911 at the airports, with the possible exception of Flight 93 which we will touch on later.
The fact that the passengers disappeared seamlessly would indicate that they were willing participants by and large. It is plausible to believe that some passengers were just regular people, and randomly chosen for death & disappearance on 9/11. The planners after all were doing as much for 3000 people at the World trade Center. A few more is nothing to them. But it is not plausible to believe this is the case for all of the passengers.
This item is what I believe is an issue which cannot be answered without more data. Whether or not regular passengers were chosen and incorporated into these flights, or whether or not they were all in one way or another part of the conspiracy.Perhaps it is a mixture of real passengers and conspirators. It is beyond the scope of this article to deal with all of the passengers and possible connections to 911 planning, although there is a mountain of supporting evidence, when there should be none. And for at least 3 of the planes passengers in question, their disappearance at the airports deserve further investigation, for we know that the 3 groups of people from flights 11, 175 and 77 were not passengers on their respective flights. The fact that the passengers from these 3 groups, at 2 airports disappeared so seamlessly is indicative that they werepossibly willing participants. Combined with the lack of video the government has released showing any of the passengers at any of the 3 airports, it surely isn’t implausible to believe that they are in a position where they cannot produce the video without incriminating themselves. My belief is that they do have video of the 3 groups of people at the 2 airports (93 is not included here) but cannot release it because it will show the passengers in a part of the airport they were never supposed to have been. Which would of curse help citizen investigators come closer to determining how 911 was operationally pulled off regarding the passengers and 4 planes. Why else would they withhold it?
It should be noted that all of the above, regarding Flight 11 was also repeated at Dulles International Airport. Done twice at 2 airports. The 2 flights which the BTS shows as never having taken off, flight 11 & 77, the two American airlines planes. One from Boston, one from Dulles. The passengers for the other ghost flight, 77, the flight which the BTS shows as never having taken off, by and large mirror what is described above with flight 11. All of the passengers of flight 77 disappeared, seamlessly, yet they didn’t get onto or take off on flight 77, because the BTS shows it as never having taken off on 9/11. And likewise, no reports of commotion or disruptions at Dulles, as one would expect if an entire plane-load of passengers were being redirected against their wills, in a public International airport. I emphasize, that they disappeared seamlessly. Without notice. Without commotion, & as the passengers on the other ghost flight of 911, flight 11 at Boston Logan, without video surveillance.
This constitutes our 2nd conundrum regarding the passengers and the 4 flights on 9/11. 2 groups of people, one from flight 11 at Boston and one from flight 77 at Dulles would both seamlessly disappear under similar circumstances. And both groups of people would never board either of the flights, 11 or 77. Because the BTS database tells us this flight never departed. Let the conundrum remain for now, and don’t ignore it, because in it lies part of the solution to understanding how they operationally pulled off at least one layer of 911.
We encounter our third conundrum with the photographic evidence of flight 175. Even from a casual observance of all the evidence of pictures and video we have of flight 175, it is quite obvious it was not a commercial airliner, much less flight 175 which had passengers on board.
Thus if commercial flight 175 did not hit the South Tower as we were all told, our third conundrum now becomes what happened to those passengers on flight 175? A third group of missing people. If they were not aboard that plane, and all evidence tells us they weren’t, then where did the passengers from flight 175 go to? Were the planes switched in mid-air? Taken over by remote control and flown into the towers? Where o where did this third group of people, the passengers from flight 175 disappear to? Is anyone starting to see a pattern here? One group after another of the 4 groups of people on 911 have all sorts of difficulties with their stories and the story of their disappearance.
As we move along to Flight 93 we will find even more issues. Though not quite the same, and as a matter of fact, we will get a glimpse of the key to understanding this mysteries outlined above. Something nobody was ever intended to read or see. It is simply an unintended consequence of 9/11 and something the planners of 911 couldn’t ever plan for or forsee.
Flight 93 was boarded twice. By two groups of people at two separate locations at Newark Airport. We know this because of two credible eye-witnesses. This is also more then likely the reason why flight 93 was 41 minutes late in taking off on 9/11. We were never supposed to know or learn of this 2nd boarding for flight 93, this was one of those things they couldn’t forsee. After closing it’s door at the terminal, Flight 93 reopened the door to the plane, to allow Mark Bingham aboard. Mark Bingham has for all intents and purposes totally messed up and missed his plane. They literally re-opened the door to the airplane at the terminal jet-bridge and allowed him onto the plane.Quote:
Mark Bingham: Flight 93
One passenger was late. Mark Bingham had overslept and his friend, Matthew Hall, drove madly from Manhattan to Newark. They screeched to a halt outside Terminal A at 7:40. Bingham leapt from the car, lugging the old, blue-and-gold canvas bag he’d used as a rugby player at the University of California at Berkeley a decade earlier. United attendants reopened the door to the boarding ramp and let him on the plane.Lucky he was that Flight 93 was 41 minutes late or he might have missed his flight.
After pulling away from the gate, flight 93 goes around the corner to pick up another ‘charter’ for the days flight, a second group of people. This was never reported on. Nor were you ever intended to so much as get a glimpse of this 2nd boarding. It happened as the result of a planning snafu.Quote:
Triton’s Clayton White on other side of recruiting
“You might say Clayton White’s life has come full circle since February 1996.
White’s career didn’t end there, however. He eventually made the NFL’s New York Giants as a free agent and spent three seasons in the league, the last one in 2002 with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
But the most lasting memory of White’s time in New York had nothing to do with football. “We had played a Monday night game in Denver, and flew back home the next morning,” White said. “We landed in Newark, N.J., about 6:45 in the morning. We usually get off the plane on the tarmac and board a bus to get to our cars.
“I noticed another plane sitting next to ours because the people were walking to the plane across the tarmac instead of through the jetway.
“Two weeks later, as we’re taking another plane to a game, one of the stewardesses informed us the plane that had been boarding next to us was Flight 93 that crashed in Pennsylvania on 9/11. That was a very eerie feeling.” – Fayetteville Observer (01/31/06)
Triton Clayton White saw something he wasn’t supposed to see, because the planners of 911 did not take into consideration the possibility of charter flights offloading on the same tarmac they were to pick up this 2nd group of people with Flight 93. Triton Clayton White (New York Giant Football player) saw FLIGHT 93 being boarded on the Tarmac at Newark, which is another separate boarding then when they picked people up at the terminal using a jet-bridge. That self same terminal at Newark, to this day, has a flag at it, where the hero’s of 9/11 boarded their fateful flight. Make no mistake about it, the first group of people boarded at the terminal, and a 2nd group of people boarded on the Tarmac. All onto flight 93, and all of this at Newark on 9/11.
But who is this 2nd group of people being boarded onto flight 93, and why the cloak and dagger boarding of a 2nd group of passengers onto Flight 93 on the tarmac, AFTER the boarding at the terminal?
This presents us with our 4th conundrum. There appears to be incredibly serious issues with each of the flights, their boardings, their departures, identities, destinations, and now this?
STATUS: NO DEPARTURE: NO BOARDING: On flight 11, we have passengers which boarded and disappeared onto a plane which never took off and which video evidence plausibly shows to be a military drone.
STATUS: DEPARTURE & BOARDING: On flight 175, we have a different issue, as the plane which struck the towers was not commercial flight 175, with those passengers aboard, and also all sorts of plausible evidence that shows this plane to be a military drone as well.
STATUS: NO DEPARTURE: NO BOARDING: On flight 77, we have passengers which allegedly board and depart on a flight which never departed that day, according to BTS.
STATUS: DEPARTURE & TWO BOARDINGS: On flight 93, we have an unusual late passenger being let on the plane after missing it, as well as a second boarding on the tarmac after its first initial boarding at the terminal using a jet-bridge.
This is as far as my research has gone, sorry I cannot supply any answers or solutions beyond this, but feel free to chime in with your own research and ideas. Psyche. Just kidding. Actually, if your still with me, we are nearly done with wrapping up all the loose ends and tying it all together and seeing what happened on 911 as well as the most plausible explanation to all of the mysteries regarding the passengers and flights.
From here out, it is actually very simple. At Boston they did a variation of the disappearing coin trick, with an additional coin thrown in, Delta flight 1989, as we will see, and at Dulles, they used the disappearing deck trick. Simply put, the passengers of flight 77 at Dulles are the same group of people who we see on the SECOND BOARDING AT NEWARK AIRPORT. The passengers at Dulles caught an earlier flight which took them to Newark where they were to rendevouz with Flight 93, and did so successfully. Howbeit, there is a witness to this deception, Triton Clayton White, the New york Giant who saw Flight 93 boarding ON THE TARMAC. After its FIRST BOARDING AT THE TERMINAL.
At Boston Logan International Airport, they used a similar deception. Here, the passengers from both flights 11 & 175 are combined into one flight. It would eventually become delta flight 1989 and land at Cleveland International Airport… While flight 93, now having also the passengers from flight 77 from the 2nd boarding at Newark, will head to the same destination;Cleveland International Airport.
Stuart Air Force Base Mystery – Explained
Above Stuart air force base we are told that flight 11 and 175 nearly collided they got so close. We were also given snippets of this through air traffic control tapes. The explanation for this is as plausible as it is logical. This is where the 2 military drones which were to strike to world trade centers took off from. They would replace the flight path of Flight 175 as well as the path of flight 11, which up to this point was provided for by an electronic warfare plane which was one of “4” such aircraft in the air for the War games which were taking place on 9/11/2001. Sometime shortly after this, Flight 175 NOW HAVING BEEN REPLACED BY A MILITARY DRONE ON RADAR will change its transponder to Delta 1989, and make an emergency landing at Cleveland, with reports of a bomb aboard. This plane would contain roughly 200 people, and not only is it plausible that these people were the people from flights 11 & 175, it is highly probable and likely. Another plane, Flight 93, would also land at Cleveland airport. This was confirmed by both the Mayor of Cleveland, and United Airlines who publicly acknowledged on 911 and confirmed flight 93 landed in Cleveland. Flight 93 would end up being sequestered at one end of the airport, at the NASA Glenn hangar, while the other flight containing the other passengers from 11 & 175, now designated as Delta 1989, would be sequestered at the other end of the airport, at the I-X Exposition center. The two flights, Delta 1989 and United flight 93 had roughly 260 some people between them, the same number as the “4” flights, 11, 175, 77 & 93.
The Cleveland Airport Mystery – Explained
The following is from Woodybox, a diligent 911 researcher. In a nutshell he explains why it was 2 separate aircraft which landed at Cleveland. In my above article, the reason why is obvious.Quote:
We can conclude that Delta 1989 landed at 10:10, and at 12:30 the 69 passengers were taken into the FAA headquarter. Flight X landed at 10:45, and at 11:15 the 200 passengers were taken into the evacuated NASA Center.
Cleveland Hopkins Airport – note that the blue runways were in planning yet on 9/11. The big black rectangle in the South is the I-X Center
5) The exact location of the plane
This is the final proof that we have to do with two different planes. Both planes were sitting on a runway, but miles away from each other. One plane was at the west end of runway 28/10 near the NASA center (point 10 in the map). This is confirmed by Associated Press and an eyewitness (5A). The other plane was sitting at the south end of runway 18/36 near the I-X-Center (point 36), also confirmed by two eyewitnesses (5B). The geographic conditions on the airport suggest that the passengers at the West end were taken to the NASA Center and the passengers at the South end to the FAA headquarter.
We summarise our findings:
………………………………………….. ……..Delta 1989……………….Flight X
Moment of landing…………………………..10:10…… …………………10:45
Begin of evacuation………………………….12:30…. …………………..11:15
Number of passengers……………………….69………. ………………….200
Passengers brought to…………. ……….FAA/Airport……………….NASA
Exact location……………………………Runway 18/36 …………Runway 28/10
………………………………………….. …near I-X Center……….near NASA Center
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